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Fellow buyer's have the inalienable right to know these are lowest duty. If you put any kind of strength into tightening these, the toggle nut with spring mechanism nut snaps. It happened over and over. Problem is they do not fall or easily unscrew back off the 3 inch screw, so getting it back out of the wall is very dangerous as you can damage the wall attempting the re-try. You are dealing with a broken toggle so it does not simply un-screw, thereby allowing a common drop inside a wall. 5/8 inches of drywall, 3/4 inch ply board encompassing a 4 inch wall, so I used 3 inch and it fit great. I simply had to run to the hardware store and buy a different brand. It's not slander if its the truth.