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I have suffered from carpal tunnel for many years, to the extent of having gone through some severe surgical procedures to attempt to correct it. I am also a PC gamer and have been having a lot of issues finding a mouse that didn't leave my hands and arms in agonizing pain after even just a few minutes trying to game! This mouse has opened up a world of gaming to me the likes of which I haven't enjoyed since my teens. Only real complaint is that it could have a slightly smaller form factor. It's a little bulky in my hands and the thumbstick is a little difficult to use. But otherwise, was a great investment! Would definitely purchase again!
The light bars of this are of a much nicer quality than I could have expected, the DPI is FAST! So fast that the highest setting may be a bit unusable but that's all ok because it can be adjusted to a lower DPI of course.
The material is smooth to the touch, which feels great, and my hand feels much better after a long time of using a vertical mouse compared to traditional.
The Macros work just fine, but if you want macros then you should just use a different mouse with macro assigned buttons.
THE CATCH: HOWEVER, the "joystick" on this mouse is complete garbage due to the deadzone being so far you basically have to slam the sucker all the way to the side. I will be looking to remap the stick to be used for menu or inventory settings, etc. However, you can use it to jump if you press it due to it equaling the space bar.
Joystick press == Spacebar
Usually, these ZELOTES mice are complete garbo, but this one is just a bit ahead of the others.
I started using this mouse as soon I got it. I use a computer for 8 - 11 hours/day and had some strain on my wrist as a result. I switched to this mouse and it made a world of difference! I know it will take some time getting use to it at first. How it moves around will feel different because it's a vertical mouse instead of a flat, horizontal one. Once you learn how to use it, you won't want to go back to a regular one!
I have small hands, 6-1/4" from wrist to middle fingertip. I used to use a Logitech Trackman fingerball mouse (discontinued probably 6 yrs ago) which I loved, but it finally needed replacement. I thought a vertical mouse would give me a similar experience and alleviate the wrist pain I feel with a normal mouse.
This mouse would likely work great for someone with bigger hands or with much longer fingers/thumbs than I have. I cannot reach the farther-away thumb button AT ALL; I can reach the closer thumb button but I can't click it without changing my grip and rocking my hand forward. It is USELESS to me for gaming, which is the only reason I bought it.
I'll start by saying the mouse quality is good. The mouse is precise and it looks pretty.
The moment you install the Zelotes - C-18 software the mouse locks up. I am using Windows 10. If I restart the mouse will work again, but once the application opens it locks up again. I think I traced this as being a double HID input device that gets populated, each time you plug it in, or restart. Because by unplugging the mouse with the software closed and deleting the extra device seems to correct the issue...until you reboot.
Moreover the mapping software does not allow for custom keyboard binding. You have only a list of macros (key combos) to map to the buttons, otherwise leave it as WASD. I do not need another WASD function on the mouse and would rather map the joystick to the arrow keys, but you seems you cannot. I tried creating custom macros for up, down, left, and right to no avail.
The joystick is positioned in an awkward position, such that you cannot be accurate with the mouse and also use the joystick. The joystick needs to be shorter, like the hat on a Thrustmaster flight stick, but flat, like it currently is, but with grip. More importantly it needs positioned lower down the side by a quarter of an inch, so that you can maintain a grip on the mouse. The click function on the joystick is also hard to use because it moves the mouse with the amount of pressure that is required, but this would beess an issue if the stick was more on the side of the mouse, as you could then clamp the mouse with your palm and push on the stick.
[Edit] I figured out my macros issue. The issue is bad English. Some settings in the software are live, like mouse DPI and sensitity. Others need applied. This is why my macros weren't working. First, in order to map a custom key, like Up arrow, you need to select "create shortcut" instead of something like "custom key." Previously I had just been going to "assign macro" and creating a single Up arrow command. Lastly to "Apply" your settings you need to click on the word "Application," which I previously assumed was for assigning the profile to an app. This should be called "Apply," or "Save."
This vertical mouse works pretty good once you scratch up the slider pads on bottom. The pads are a bit sticky when I first used it but I scratch my fingernail on the pad until I flaked off a lot of the black material to get to the blue material underneath and now it slides around on my mouse pad with ease. The back thumb button on the side of the mouse is in the perfect position but the forward thumb button is not. I have to adjust my hand position to reach it. But overall I really like the mouse, it is not overly tall like others I have tried and it is the perfect weight for gaming.
I really like this mouse! This is my first ergonomic mouse and it fits my hand perfectly!! I am not going back to a regular mouse ever again. My normal gaming mouse was a g700s, but not being ergonomic became a pain for my wrist. I tested this device in Windows 10 and all buttons function properly ”left mouse click, right mouse click, forward and back buttons, scroll wheel.” I also tested on a MacBook Air with High Seira and all buttons worked except the forward and back browser buttons. Lastly I like how the dpi settings can be quickly viewed by the color of the LED light. Oh and as a bonus the USB cable, is covered with nylon weave for added durability. This mouse works great and is an incredible value. Another bonus the mouse has a soft grip that feels good to the fingers! 5 stars!!!
This is an awesome mouse if you have carpal tunnel. It feels really natural and comfortable to use this mouse. I've used a couple different types of vertical, ergonomic ones and I prefer this one. The buttons aren't cramped so there's no accidentally hitting a button you don't want. The joystick is also awesome. There's some software that comes with the mouse that let's you customize the buttons, joystick, and LEDs too which is awesome. You can even set profiles based on the game you're playing. The reason I gave it 4 stars for gaming was the "Page Forward" button. It sits a bit too far forward to be easily reached when doing fast mouse movements. And I have big hands. I have all the buttons customized except that one because using it is awkward. But, you can even reassign the DPI button which almost makes up for it. If you have carpal tunnel, or just want a mouse that's comfortable to use, I recommend this one. I would have got the wireless one, but those didn't have the joystick. And the joystick makes running around in games really nice, since you don't have to use they keyboard and mouse.
So there is apparently very little market for vertical mice that are responsive enough and programmable for gaming. I've been using an older Logitech G700s gaming mouse, which is very nice as it's a laser sensor, lots of programmable buttons, auto-detects game profiles, and has a very high DPI range. But it really exacerbated my carpal tunnel/tendonitis. I got this as an alternative, and chose it over the other models due to the "gaming" sensor (none of the other models tell you what kind of sensor they use)
Pros: - good DPI range, easy to switch and customize - USB cord is braided but not stiff - smooth tracking - nice RGB feature, and somewhat customizable through their software - two programmable buttons and two profile save slots - gives you a set of replacement pads if/when the first set get scratched or wear out
Cons: - joystick is unidirectional, so basically only usable as the WASD keys, not like a controller joystick - joystick in a kind of weird spot, so not easy to use for someone with tendonitis - optical sensor, not laser (but you're never gonna get laser at this price point) - software has to request administrator access every time you turn on the PC (logitech software did not)
Overall I think this is a good option as both an ergonomic mouse and gaming mouse for the price. I will likely never use the joystick when gaming, but that's not the reason I bought this mouse over the others.
Don't know whos idea it was to sell this as a gaming mouse, but they should have been fired. First off as others have noted the feet are really sticky. Can't use them as they are and will have to replace them as soon as you get it with teflon feet if you want fast action on this mouse. Second if you do a lot of "lifts" with your mouse ordanarally this will NOT work for you. The sides are super slick and you can't get a grip to lift. I tried putting felt pads where my fingers go to help with a grip and I still can't lift it anywhere near as well as I could my old mouse slowing me down. If however you want a work mouse this will be fine. Turn off the RGB, and your set.